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Fool Me Once

08.01.2023 | Duration: 26:40

A discussion with author and forensic accounting expert Kelly Richmond Pope

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In this episode, BLC Senior Advisor Stephen Brown talks to Kelly Richmond Pope, forensic accounting expert and author of聽Fool Me Once: Scams, Stories, and Secrets from the Trillion-Dollar Fraud Industry, about her research on fraud perpetrators, victims, and whistleblowers.

Topics discussed include:

  • The author鈥檚 views on the different types of perpetrators, victims, and whistleblowers
  • The importance of understanding the organizational culture and environment
  • The board鈥檚 role in asking questions and probing

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Stephen L. Brown
Senior Advisor, 乐鱼(Leyu)体育官网 Board Leadership Center, 乐鱼(Leyu)体育官网 US
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Kelly Richmond Pope
Forensic accounting expert and author
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Kelly Richmond Pope

Forensic accounting expert and author

Dr. Kelly Richmond Pope is a nationally recognized expert in risk, forensic accounting, and white-collar crime research, and an award-winning educator, researcher, author, and award-winning documentary filmmaker. Pope currently serves on the board of directors for the Greater Chicago Food Depository (GCFD) and chairs the Audit Committee. Pope is a former director and finance committee chair for Mercy Hospital & Medical Center, former director of the Illinois CPA Society, and former member of the governing council for American Institute of Certified Public Accountants (AICPA).Pope is also an accounting professor and teaches managerial and forensic accounting both at the undergraduate and graduate level.

In 2020, the AICPA and the CPA Practice Advisor named Dr. Pope among the top 25 most powerful women in accounting. Her area of expertise lies in understanding and identifying financial fraud risk within financial statements, assessing corporate culture and compliance systems designed to confront internal control challenges. Pope's research on executive misconduct culminated in directing and producing the award-winning documentary,听All the Queen's Horses聽which explores the largest municipal fraud in U.S. history. Pope鈥檚 TED Talk entitled "How Whistle-blowers Shape History鈥� has been viewed over 1.6 million times, translated into 20 languages, and serves as a resource to help organizations and individuals embrace internal whistleblowing.

Pope is a frequent international speaker to numerous corporations, nonprofits, and government agencies. Pope has appeared on news outlets such as CNBC, the BBC, and WGN-TV offering commentary on fraud, risk, and ethics. Additionally, Pope has appeared in publications such as聽Bloomberg,听The Wall Street Journal,听CFO Drive,听Accounting Today,听Forbes,听The Washington Post, and聽The Daily Beast聽discussing fraud and the need for sound internal controls.

Pope has earned her Bachelor of Science in accounting from North Carolina A&T State University and her master鈥檚 and doctorate in accounting from Virginia Tech. Pope resides in the Chicagoland area and is a licensed CPA in the State of North Carolina.

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